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  • #10253
    ahmeisa
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    Strategy: SG Mutation DB1
    Running on: Mac mini
    Exchange: Binance
    Number of pairs: 3
    Pairs: USDT-ETH, USDT-ADA, USDT-XRP
    Trading Limit: 40
    Start date: 19/7/21

     

    Modifications:

    I made some modification to make it more aggressive:

    Period: 5m

    SMA: 21

    Gain: 0.2

    Stats:
    Total profit: $65.6
    Total running time: 72 hours (3 day)
    Average profit per trade: $0.426  (always gain is more 0.2%, thanks to trailing)
    DCA: never reached to DCA 9, average is around 4

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    The strategy is great, but sometimes I feel like it’s not good at capturing the bottom of some moves. also it always buy from top of the moves, I know it’s not from the bot itself, the strategy is doing what it supposed to do. just thinking maybe this is because of changing the period to 5m and SMA to 21.

     

     

    #10257
    ahmeisa
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    Quick update:

    unfortunately, as I expected the P&L is showing wrong profits, I did manual calculations and found that my gains are higher than what PNL shows.

     

    Improving ideas:

    From my observation on small TF like 5m or 3m, usually, the small dumps are between 3% up to 8%.
    So I was wondering can we increase the distance between the first 3 DCA rounds? for example first DCA occurs after 1.5% down in the price (the current setting is around 0.5%), second & third one each occurs after an extra 1% down (the current setting is around 0.75%), the rest can be the same as the current setting.

    I think if my idea is applicable then I can higher my TL and down the DCA rounds to 10 or 12 without worrying about the big dumps

    #10258
    Aitor
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     I made some modification to make it more aggressive: Period: 5m SMA: 21 Gain: 0.2

    In my opinion GAIN: 0.2 is too low. It usually gets 1%, 2%… Anyway, did you disabled “Autogain”? If you didn’t the bot is running Autogain despite you set any value to GAIN. In other words, if you want GAIN parameter to be taken into account by the bot, you need to set AUTOGAIN to “false”.

    The strategy is great, but sometimes I feel like it’s not good at capturing the bottom of some moves.

    Capturing the bottom is very difficult. It’s easy to say “I would have bought here at the bottom” once you see the graph, but very hard to do before it happens, as no one has a crystal ball . Also note that DCA 1, 2 and 3 and quite fast, but from 4 onwards, the bot needs to increase the distance between buy points for obvious reasons.

    also it always buy from top of the moves, I know it’s not from the bot itself, the strategy is doing what it supposed to do. just thinking maybe this is because of changing the period to 5m and SMA to 21.

    This is what strategy does, and it makes to get very good profits when the market is going up, and many times, when price is going up and down in a range, something very common, it gets lots of good and profitable trades very fast.  There are other strategies that try to find a good entry point when several conditions are met, but they make much less trades. Its a different concept of what strategy does.

    unfortunately, as I expected the P&L is showing wrong profits, I did manual calculations and found that my gains are higher than what PNL shows.

    How are you calculating the PNL? I recommend you to take a look at this post, maybe it can clear you some things:

    https://gunbot.shop/forum/topic/pnl-calculation-gunbot-pnl-or-binance-pnl-which-one-is-better/

    So I was wondering can we increase the distance between the first 3 DCA rounds? for example first DCA occurs after 1.5% down in the price (the current setting is around 0.5%), second & third one each occurs after an extra 1% down (the current setting is around 0.75%), the rest can be the same as the current setting.

    I think if my idea is applicable then I can higher my TL and down the DCA rounds to 10 or 12 without worrying about the big dumps

    Yes, it’s possible to increase the distance between the first 3 DCA. DCA distance is not something fixed, it changes dynamically depending on several factors. By changing Grid Multiplier you can increase the distance %. For example, setting Grid Multiplier to 1.5 would make the bot to increase distance between buy points by 50%.

    DB1 already changes it dynamically depending on the situation. Anyway, I don’t think it’s a good idea to increase the distance for the first 3 DCAs and it would make you to lose a lot of fast and profitable trades.

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    #10254
    ahmeisa
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    Forgot to mention that the $10 lose is not from the bot, i mistakenly sold some ETH manually.

    Also, I’m sure that the PNL is not accurate 100%, profit is a little bit higher. why I’m saying that? because I noticed “total number of trades” is stucked at 154 trades however it did some trades before and after that with profit. I will try to calculate it manually and report here again.

    #10259
    ahmeisa
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    In my opinion GAIN: 0.2 is too low. It usually gets 1%, 2%… Anyway, did you disabled “Autogain”? If you didn’t the bot is running Autogain despite you set any value to GAIN. In other words, if you want GAIN parameter to be taken into account by the bot, you need to set AUTOGAIN to “false”.

    Yes, I disabled autogain, actually you cannot change gain without disable autogain first. and I agree with you of course autogain better to increase my profit per trade but my idea is to make the start more more aggressive and make as many trades as it can per day with small gains, the end result per day in my calculation might be higher then autogain enabled or at least same. I would to achieve my daily target of profit in fewer hours than the normal strategy do.

     

    How are you calculating the PNL? I recommend you to take a look at this post, maybe it can clear you some things:

    Thank you. I have restarted the bot and now it’s showing the correct PNL, here is the new and updated PNL:

    #10269
    GH
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    Any updates ahmeisa? Interested to know how you’re getting on.

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